Good morning!
Murdoc online had put together a spreadsheet which tracked incoming results and projected a winner of the Washington State gubernatorial race. It got wild at the end... which is now.

The spreadsheet now forecasts Republican Dean Rossi edging Democrat Christine Gregoire by 176, 50, then 253 votes. It was happening that fast. Several newspapers had Rossi up by 19.

We'll find out today for certain, I assume.

  • Indeed. The House GOP will today approve a rule change which will allow a member indicted by a grand jury to serve in the leadership, thus facilitating Tom DeLay to continue as Majority Leader. The rule, the Rosty Rule, was created by Republicans in response to the predicament of the odious Dan Rostenkowski, indicted for mail fraud while running House Ways and Means.

    Though DeLay's indictment seems to me to be a political product, while Rosty's was based on corruption, I hope Speaker Hastert or DeLay intervenes to keep the rule, perhaps allowing DeLay to resume his leadership position when this matter is cleared up.

    The GOP owes its increased majority to the Hammer, architect of the Texas redistricting, so he should not be left out in the cold. He does have problems, though.

  • Here's another >New York Times story about the need of the Democrats to "get religion." This makes one's faith sound like something he can turn off or on as the wind blows, and it goes far deeper than that. The late (politically) JF Kerry might now know that you can't suddenly started pretending a faith in the last week of a campaign and expect people, other than those in the MSM, to gush on an instant.


    This is a great blog. We've started a left-leaning one here -


    and we'd like for you to stop by. We have conservative voices commenting regularly and we've been having some healthy debate. Take a look.

    Incidentally, as to your note about religion, it seems to me that your candidate waited until he was 40 to "turn it on." No one seems to question his faith. John Kerry has been a Catholic for a lifetime.

    By Blogger Dan, at November 17, 2004 at 9:33 AM  

    Hi, Dan...
    Thank you for the kind words, and I'll visit your blog. And if you link to me, I'll link to, and v/v.

    JF Kerry was born into a Catholic family, just as the President was born, probably, an Episcopalian. JF Kerry has repeatedly stated that he disagrees with the teachings of the Catholic Church, which makes him, by definition, a heretic.

    Religion is more than claiming to be this or that. Kerry seems to think that there is an ethnic component to Catholicism, as there is to Judaism, and there is not. Catholicism is a set of believes, few of which JF Kerry seems to hold.

    By Blogger Mark Kilmer, at November 17, 2004 at 11:54 AM  

    Hi Mark,

    Regarding the links - will do.

    I think it's disingenuous to claim that John Kerry holds few beliefs shared by mainstream Catholics. Surely he believes in a tripartite God and the importance of Jesus's teachings. He may disagree with some of Catholicism as at is currently practiced, but there is and should be room for that. Without open minds and hearts religion becomes fundamentalism.

    Additionally, I believe that religion - even Christianity - is a component of ethnic identity. A Greek Orthodox believer is probably Greek. A Lutheran, like me, is likely German or Scandinavian. Anglicans (Episcopalians) are probably of English descent. While the borders of Christian denominations are open, the sense of family and tradition inherent in the the one in which you were brought up makes it the most appealing.

    By Blogger Dan, at November 17, 2004 at 1:18 PM  


    Fundamentalism is something particular, as is Catholicism. To be considered a fundamentalist, one must believe certain things. It's a Biblical interpretation thing, primarily.

    To be considered a Catholic, one must share the believes, the dogma of the Catholic church. The Catholics believe that what comes from the Pope and from the bishops comes from Jesus Christ himself through the Holy Spirit.

    Ethnicity. Yes, the Irish are generally associated with Catholicism, so being Catholic could be considered "part of being Irish." But one is not automatically Catholic if one is Irish. It means that their ancestors were Catholic. That their ancestors believed that abortion is a form of murder. That is a part of Catholicism.

    But JF Kerry is not Irish. He was a Catholic from youth, but, as so many folks do, he's "outgrown" the religion of his youth.

    By Blogger Mark Kilmer, at November 17, 2004 at 8:43 PM  

    Hi Mark,

    I think an Islamic fundamentalist (for example) would disagree with you. Fundamentalism in any religion denotes strict and unquestioning (I'd say unhealthy) adherence to dogma. One can be a fundamentalist Catholic, Jew, or Muslim.

    I do not pretend to be an expert on Catholicism. I can say this. My grandfather has been a Lutheran minister for almost 60 years (really). There have been times when he disagreed with the church's leadership. Does that make him less Lutheran? He has always disagreed with a strict, literal interpretation of the Bible. Is he not still Christian?

    There should always be room for disagreement. Questioning dogma allows our faith to strengthen and evolve. This has happened throughout the history of the Catholic church. If it hadn't, people could still be purchasing salvation with money.


    By Blogger Dan, at November 18, 2004 at 4:56 PM  

    Dan... I was baptized a Lutheran. A belief in a strict, literal reading of the allegorical Bible stories was not a part of what I learned. That's limited to the fundamentalists.

    I am not a Catholic, but I have learned enough about their religion to realize that there a certain things the Catholic church holds to be fundamental to their faith. Life is one of them. Catholics also believe that the teachings of the Pope come from Jesus Christ.

    Now, I've not heard any member of the Catholic clergy suggest that JF Kerry is not a Catholic. I've hard many, including those at the Vatican, say that people who are guilty of a grave sin, which includes a politician supporting abortion, may not receive the Eucharist. Communion to a Catholic is different from that to a Lutheran, and that also is fundamental to their faith.

    Catholicism is a strict faith. I admire that about them, given the nature of their mission. It is what makes them Catholic.

    By Blogger Mark Kilmer, at November 18, 2004 at 10:25 PM  

    Hi Mark,

    Well, I think we are actually close to agreement. My point about the literal interpretation of the Bible is that though there are Christians - even Lutherans (one of my Sunday School teachers, for example) - who maintain it, there is room for disagreement. Surely, the literal interpretation was a basic tenet of faith for Christians for hundreds of years. Not until the 1800s was it called into question, and it continues to be a divisive issue. Though some have modified their views in light of new knowledge, that makes them no less Christian.

    I consider that to be a broad example of the smaller matter at hand - John Kerry's pro-choice stance. Though some Christians and most Catholics may find it repellant, the many shared elements of their faith are strong enough to permit some disagreement.

    Anyway, fair enough. Thanks for the discussion. I will add your link to our blog.

    By Blogger Dan, at November 19, 2004 at 11:13 AM  

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